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UnfuckableIncel Well-Known 986 points
Crocus party must've been fun
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Therealnigga76239 Famous 3,958 points
I fucking hate that jewish faggot unfuckablekike.
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stuffymcgeeyourmom Veteran 12,638 points
stuffymcgeeyourmom Veteran 12,638 points
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SlayMonzter Natural Addict 9,145 points
GDP
Military spending
Cultural export
Must I go on?
stuffymcgeeyourmom Veteran 12,638 points
Export of garbage
RobertWhite88 Veteran 13,346 points
@SlayMonzter Reasons why fucking Russians never stop coming to the West. Lmao It's so funny to see the Russies criticizing the West, when those white niggers never stop coming here. The funniest part? Then they cry like bitches when they get deported or people ask for them to be deported. They share that behavior with beaners (both from Mexico and Central America) and sand niggers.
RobertWhite88 Veteran 13,346 points
The most significant thing the Russians have exported is communism and socialism, and there you have the results: Zimbabwe, Mozambique, Venezuela, almost all of Latin America, and other shitty countries.
SlayMonzter Natural Addict 9,145 points


Putin and sand niggers indeed have a lot to do
stuffymcgeeyourmom Veteran 12,638 points
Is This You?
RobertWhite88 Veteran 13,346 points
What the United States exports to the world:

Digital Culture:
Video game development (AAA studios and indie ecosystems).
Esports infrastructure.
Social media platforms shaping global communication norms.

Foundational Technologies:
The Internet (ARPANET origins).
TCP/IP networking protocols.
Cloud computing architectures.
Personal computing revolution.

Software & Platforms:
Operating systems (Windows, macOS, Linux contributions).
Search engines.
Social networking platforms.
Enterprise software ecosystems.

Semiconductors & Hardware:
Microprocessor development.
GPU computing.
Advanced chip design firms.
Aerospace-grade hardware engineering.

Artificial Intelligence & Machine Learning:
Deep learning frameworks.
Natural language processing breakthroughs.
Autonomous systems research.

Aerospace & Space Science:
NASA-led planetary exploration.
Moon landing program.
Mars rovers.
Commercial spaceflight (SpaceX, reusable rockets).
Satellite infrastructure (GPS).

Medicine & Biomedical Science:
Pharmaceuticals & Vaccines.
mRNA vaccine technology.
Insulin mass production refinement.
Antibiotic research advancements.
Oncology drug innovation.
Medical Devices.
MRI and advanced imaging development.
Pacemakers and implantable devices.
Robotic surgery platforms.
Public Health.
Epidemiological research institutions.
Global disease surveillance collaboration.
Emergency medicine systems.

Education & Knowledge Infrastructure:
Research-intensive university model.
MBA programs.
Massive Open Online Courses (MOOCs).
Academic publishing standards.
stuffymcgeeyourmom Veteran 12,638 points
Desperate Yankee Defense
RobertWhite88 Veteran 13,346 points
Desperate Russky Butthurt Defense.
stuffymcgeeyourmom Veteran 12,638 points
Moon travel isn't possible because of the Van Allen belts around earth when soviets sent sputnik they found 10,000 Roentgens per hour of Radiation
stuffymcgeeyourmom Veteran 12,638 points
I love how American film cameras survived the vibration and cold temperatures of space and took perfect photos the heat and cold would of destroyed the film in the camera but took perfect pictures
RobertWhite88 Veteran 13,346 points
## Claim

> *“Moon travel isn’t possible because the Van Allen radiation belts would kill astronauts. When the Soviets sent Sputnik, they measured 10,000 roentgens per hour.”*

This claim conflates real radiation data with incorrect assumptions about dose, duration, spacecraft shielding, and mission trajectory. A detailed technical review shows that it is not scientifically valid.

---

# 1️⃣ What the Van Allen Belts Actually Are

The **Van Allen radiation belts** are two (sometimes three) toroidal zones of charged particles trapped by Earth’s magnetosphere.

* **Inner belt**: Primarily high-energy protons (≈1,000–60,000 km altitude)
* **Outer belt**: Primarily high-energy electrons (≈13,000–60,000 km altitude)

Radiation intensity varies dramatically depending on:

* Altitude
* Inclination
* Solar activity
* Time spent in the region

It is not a uniform “wall of radiation.” It is spatially variable and mission-dependent.

---

# 2️⃣ The “10,000 Roentgens per Hour” Claim

This number is often cited without context.

### Key clarifications:

### • Sputnik 1 (1957)

Sputnik 1 **did not carry radiation instruments**.

### • Sputnik 2 (1957)

Carried basic radiation detectors, but early readings were crude and not directly comparable to human dose metrics.

### • Explorer 1 (1958, USA)

This mission actually *discovered* the Van Allen belts using a Geiger counter. High readings initially saturated the detector — but that does **not** mean astronauts would instantly receive lethal doses.

### What does 10,000 R/hr mean?

* A dose of ~500 roentgens delivered to a human in a short time can be fatal.
* However, 10,000 R/hr readings were **localized peak intensities**, not sustained whole-body exposure.
* Dose rate ≠ total dose received.
* Spacecraft do not remain in peak zones for hours.

This is the critical misunderstanding.

---

# 3️⃣ Apollo Mission Radiation Data

Apollo missions (1968–1972) passed through the belts.

### Transit time:

* ~1–2 hours total
* Through thinner regions
* On trajectories selected to minimize exposure

### Measured astronaut doses:

| Mission                                    | Dose (mSv) |
| ------------------------------------------ | ---------- |
| Apollo 11                                  | ~0.18 mSv  |
| Apollo 14                                  | ~1.14 mSv  |
| Highest (Apollo 14, during solar activity) | ~1–2 mSv   |

For comparison:

* Chest CT scan ≈ 7 mSv
* Annual natural background radiation ≈ 2–3 mSv
* Occupational annual limit (US) ≈ 50 mSv

The Apollo doses were **well below dangerous thresholds**.

---

# 4️⃣ Why Astronauts Weren’t “Fried”

###  1. Short Exposure Time

Radiation damage is dose × time.
Apollo spacecraft crossed the belts quickly.

###  2. Trajectory Selection

Missions avoided the densest parts of the inner belt.

###  3. Spacecraft Shielding

Command module hull ≈ aluminum alloy
Aluminum attenuates charged particles effectively.

### ☀ 4. Solar Activity Timing

Apollo missions launched during periods of relatively low solar particle events.

Had a major solar flare occurred during transit, exposure could have been much higher. This was a known risk.

---

# 5️⃣ Biological Reality of Radiation

Radiation harm depends on:

* Particle type (proton, electron, heavy ion)
* Energy level
* Dose rate
* Duration
* Shielding
* Biological repair mechanisms

Acute radiation syndrome requires high whole-body doses in short timeframes.

Apollo exposure levels were nowhere near that.

---

# 6️⃣ Modern Verification

Radiation measurements from:

* Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter (LRO)
* Artemis I (2022 uncrewed mission)
* ISS dosimetry
* Various deep-space probes

All confirm:

* Van Allen belts are hazardous long-term
* Short crossings are survivable
* Long-term habitation requires shielding

Artemis I’s Orion spacecraft measured radiation doses consistent with Apollo-era predictions.

---

# 7️⃣ Where the Myth Comes From

Common sources of confusion:

1. Quoting **peak detector saturation** as human dose
2. Ignoring exposure duration
3. Ignoring trajectory engineering
4. Confusing roentgens (air exposure) with absorbed tissue dose
5. Assuming belts are uniformly lethal everywhere

It is technically similar to saying:

> “A blast furnace is 1,500°C, therefore no one can walk through a steel factory.”

True temperature. False conclusion.

---

# 8️⃣ Could the Belts Stop Permanent Travel?

Short answer: **No.**

Long answer:

* They complicate long-duration missions.
* They increase risk.
* They require shielding and planning.
* They are manageable with engineering controls.

Mars missions face greater radiation risk than lunar missions.

---

# Final Technical Conclusion

The claim that Moon travel is impossible due to Van Allen radiation is inconsistent with:

* Measured Apollo dosimetry
* Modern spacecraft radiation data
* Radiation physics
* Biological dose-response science

The “10,000 roentgens per hour” figure represents localized peak instrument readings, not sustained astronaut exposure.

Moon travel is **physically possible**, demonstrably achieved, and consistent with established radiation science.
SlayMonzter Natural Addict 9,145 points
Oh look, he's now denying the moon landing. Because I'm sure you can just fake a project that involved some 300,000 people with not one of them even hinting that it was faked.
What else was faked? Nukes? The earth being an oblate spheroid?
ROVA NOVA 6 The Boss 27,527 points
@RobertWhite88 what do you mean by (those white niggers never stop coming here) what's (here) ??? Bro you are literally from argentina lol you have no rights to say who is allowed to go to western european countries cuz you are the the president of these countries at all and you don't have any rights on who they let in their countries cuz you aren't even from there XD literally mind your own country and leave other alone
RobertWhite88 Veteran 13,346 points
The claim bundles several misunderstandings about **film physics, spacecraft engineering, and mission design**. Let’s separate them.

---

# 1️⃣ “Vibration would have destroyed the cameras”

### Launch vibration is real — but engineered around.

* Space hardware undergoes **qualification testing**: vibration, acoustic loading, shock, thermal cycling.
* Cameras flown on Apollo were **Hasselblad 500EL-based systems**, heavily modified for space.
* They were mounted to the astronauts’ suits or secured in the cabin.
* The Saturn V vibration environment was known and simulated on Earth before flight.

There is nothing uniquely destructive about rocket vibration that precision instruments cannot survive. Satellites, telescopes, and interplanetary probes routinely carry optics far more delicate than a mechanical film camera.

---

# 2️⃣ “The cold and heat of space would have destroyed the film”

This assumes:

* Film was exposed to raw vacuum and uncontrolled temperature swings.
* It was left baking in sunlight indefinitely.

Neither is true.

##  Thermal Reality

Space is not “cold” in the way air is cold. It’s a **vacuum**. Heat transfer occurs mainly by radiation.

On the Moon:

* Sunlit surfaces can reach ~120°C.
* Shadowed areas can drop below −150°C.

But Apollo operations:

* Occurred during lunar daytime.
* Lasted only a few hours per EVA.
* Cameras were not left unattended for days.

##  Film Characteristics

Photographic film:

* Is used in Antarctica.
* Is used in high-altitude reconnaissance aircraft.
* Survives subzero conditions routinely.
* Actually performs well in cold environments (less grain growth, reduced fogging).

The Apollo film was:

* Stored inside insulated magazines.
* Protected by reflective camera surfaces.
* Used during limited exposure periods.

NASA performed extensive environmental testing beforehand.

---

# 3️⃣ “Perfect photos”

They were not “perfect.”

Many frames show:

* Overexposure
* Underexposure
* Motion blur
* Dust contamination
* Framing errors

They look sharp because:

* Hasselblad medium format film (70mm) has extremely high resolution.
* Lunar lighting has no atmospheric haze.
* No atmospheric scattering = extremely crisp shadows and contrast.

That clarity is expected physics, not evidence of fakery.

---

# 4️⃣ Radiation Concern ☢️

Another frequent addition to this claim is radiation.

* The Van Allen belts were crossed quickly.
* Film fogging requires sustained exposure.
* Measured radiation dose was below levels that would significantly damage film.

Again: tested, modeled, measured.

---

# 5️⃣ The Engineering Context

If film were so fragile it couldn’t survive space:

* Weather satellites wouldn’t have carried film-return systems.
* Spy satellites (CORONA program) wouldn’t have returned exposed film from orbit.
* High-altitude U-2 and SR-71 aircraft wouldn’t have used film.

All of those operated in extreme environments.

---

# Why This Claim Persists

It relies on:

* An intuitive but incorrect idea that “space = instant destruction.”
* Underestimating 1960s engineering.
* Overestimating film fragility.
* Ignoring preflight testing.

There is no physical contradiction between:

* Film cameras
* Space vacuum
* Lunar temperatures
* Launch vibration

The photos are consistent with known materials science and thermal physics.
stuffymcgeeyourmom Veteran 12,638 points
Shielding? you going to stop GeV particles with thin aluminum
SlayMonzter Natural Addict 9,145 points
>my jewish commie shithole was uncapable of going to the moon because our N1 rockets kept blowing up on us therefore going to the moon is IMPOSSIBLE ok westoid?
RobertWhite88 Veteran 13,346 points
@ROVA+NOVA+6 I am an Argentinean of European descent and I cherish the land of my ancestors. I am of Spanish-Dutch descent, and obviously I hate the idea of these lands being infected by muzzrats and Russkies. I will "worry about my country's affairs" when the Russians do. Recently, it was discovered that there were Russian spies in my country. So yes, the shit the Russians do does concern me.
RobertWhite88 Veteran 13,346 points
This objection conflates **all radiation into one category** and assumes shielding was meant to block the highest-energy particles in existence. That’s not how radiation environments—or shielding design—work. ☢️

Let’s separate the physics.

---

# 1️⃣ Not All Space Radiation Is GeV

Space radiation consists primarily of:

| Source                       | Typical Particle Type | Typical Energy Range           |
| ---------------------------- | --------------------- | ------------------------------ |
| Van Allen belts              | Electrons, protons    | keV–hundreds of MeV            |
| Solar particle events (SPEs) | Protons               | ~10–100 MeV (sometimes higher) |
| Galactic cosmic rays (GCRs)  | Heavy ions, protons   | Hundreds of MeV to multi-GeV   |

Only **galactic cosmic rays (GCRs)** routinely reach GeV energies.

They are:

* Extremely penetrating
* Low flux (very sparse)
* Impossible to fully shield without meters of dense material

No spacecraft—then or now—fully “stops” GeV cosmic rays. Not the ISS. Not Orion. Not SpaceX capsules. Not lunar Gateway concepts.

Full GeV shielding would require impractical mass.

---

# 2️⃣ Shielding Is About Dose Reduction, Not Total Blocking

Radiation protection follows three principles:

* **Time** ⏱
* **Distance**
* **Shielding**

Apollo relied heavily on **time**:

* Van Allen belt transit lasted ~1 hour each way.
* Dose accumulated is proportional to time × flux.

Measured Apollo 11 dose:
~0.18 rad (1.8 mGy)

For context:

* CT scan: similar order of magnitude
* Occupational astronaut limits: much higher
* Acute radiation sickness threshold: ~100 rad

So the dose was small.

---

# 3️⃣ Aluminum Is Actually Effective for Many Relevant Energies

Thin aluminum is not useless.

It is effective at:

* Stopping keV electrons
* Significantly attenuating low- to mid-MeV protons
* Reducing secondary radiation production compared to heavier metals

In fact, aluminum is commonly used because:

* High-Z materials (like lead) produce more secondary particle showers when hit by high-energy ions.
* For space radiation, hydrogen-rich materials are often better than heavy metals.

Shielding optimization is non-intuitive.

---

# 4️⃣ The Van Allen Belts Were Not a Constant Wall of GeV Radiation

The belts contain:

* Trapped charged particles
* Strongest intensity near equatorial regions
* Variable density by altitude and inclination

Apollo trajectories:

* Passed through thinner regions.
* Avoided the most intense zones.
* Minimized dwell time.

Radiation models from the 1960s predicted manageable exposure — later probe measurements confirmed those models were broadly correct.

---

# 5️⃣ The Real Risk Was Solar Flares

The true danger wasn’t GeV cosmic rays — it was a **major solar particle event during transit**.

Apollo missions:

* Launched during relatively quiet solar periods.
* Monitored solar activity.
* Would have been at risk during a major flare.

That risk was real. It was accepted.

But “risk exists” ≠ “mission impossible.”

---

# 6️⃣ Modern Spacecraft Still Use Similar Shielding

The ISS:

* Uses aluminum hull structures.
* Relies on mass distribution for partial protection.
* Does not stop GeV cosmic rays.

Artemis:

* Uses comparable structural materials.
* Plans storm shelters for solar events.

If “thin aluminum can’t stop GeV particles” disproved Apollo,
it would also disprove all modern crewed spaceflight beyond LEO.

It does not.

---

# Bottom Line

The statement assumes:

> “If shielding can’t stop the highest energy particles entirely, survival is impossible.”

That is false.

Radiation damage depends on:

* Flux
* Energy spectrum
* Exposure duration
* Total dose

Apollo astronauts received doses consistent with:

* Modeled expectations
* Post-flight medical monitoring
* Modern recalculations

There is no radiation physics contradiction here.
stuffymcgeeyourmom Veteran 12,638 points
Stupid ChatGPT garbage
RobertWhite88 Veteran 13,346 points
Yeah, you're going to wave a flag? Lol, the Russians are so ridiculous.
RobertWhite88 Veteran 13,346 points
It doesn't matter if it's from ChatGPT, Russky. You can't refute anything.
RobertWhite88 Veteran 13,346 points
Yes, because you don't have the balls to go into combat. Stupid black man.
stuffymcgeeyourmom Veteran 12,638 points
I am European Not African, blonde hair blue eyes You faggot
RobertWhite88 Veteran 13,346 points
Oh, you're saying that even niggers have more balls than you? That they're willing to die for their beliefs instead of talking behind a monitor? How pathetic you are, nigger.
stuffymcgeeyourmom Veteran 12,638 points
You are behind monitor Westoid
RobertWhite88 Veteran 13,346 points
And you too, nigger.
stuffymcgeeyourmom Veteran 12,638 points
RobertWhite88 Veteran 13,346 points
Respond to something I said, nigger. It's funny how you first try to make statements and counterarguments, only to end up repeating the same insults, which just shows your inability to argue anything.
ROVA NOVA 6 The Boss 27,527 points
@RobertWhite88 then look out for spain and netherlands and not other western european countries cuz you are not from france or uk or germany cuz by law and blood you don't belong in these countries and start talk about uk's decisions when you get the british citizenship cuz now you aren't british to involve yourself in uk at all and not just you but everyone that doesn't have the british citizenship
RobertWhite88 Veteran 13,346 points
Yeah, yeah. Now shut up. I've had enough headaches from making the grave mistake of trying to have an intelligent discussion with that stupid Russian.
I have a lot of appreciation for British and Anglo-Saxon culture, especially bands like The Cure and The Ramones. I must be one of the few Hispanics who see Anglo-Saxons as white brothers instead of all that Hispanic ideology bullshit.
I've met many tourists from Canada, the United States, and England here in my country (and since I was a child). In fact, my parents would invite them to have lunch with us, and sometimes the tourists had their children with them and I could play with them. Anglo-Saxons are very nice people, more so than other Hispanics (I don't include Spaniards in this last part, similar experiences apply to them).
ROVA NOVA 6 The Boss 27,527 points
I rate this video 10/10 cuz it isn't a porn video
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